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Maptalk-Digest Tuesday, December 24 2002 Volume 02 : Number 463

001 Re: MAP: Re: 'so you say you want a big donation'
    From: Mark Greer <>
002 Re: MAP: Re: 'so you say you want a big donation'
    From: "Tom Angell" <>
003 Latin American Anti-Prohibition Conference, Feb. 12-15, Mérida =?iso-88
    From: David Borden <>
004 College Newspapers in the USA
    From: Herb <>
005 Paul McCartney
    From: Herb <>
006 Re: Paul McCartney
    From: "Tom Angell" <>
007 Re: MAP: Paul McCartney
    From: "kim hanna" <>
008 Re: MAP: Re: Paul McCartney
    From: Mark Greer <>
009 Re: MAP: Re: 'so you say you want a big donation'
    From: Mark Greer <>
010 Re: MAP: Re: 'so you say you want a big donation'
    From: "Tom Angell" <>


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Subj: 001 Re: MAP: Re: 'so you say you want a big donation'
From: Mark Greer <>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 09:42:47 -0800

One word. Money! And the time/manpower that money would buy to help organize such an effort. We do a heck of a lot with volunteer efforts but we could do a heck of a lot more if there were funding for such projects. 

Re  a grant request to MPP? Go for it if you have the time and talent to organize a program like this. The deadline for the current grant cycle is Jan 1 so you'd have to be very fast. Our grant request is already in. Be forewarned start up orgs with little track record don't have a very good chance of obtaining grant funds. In fact in my experience it's not exactly a walk in the park for major groups with phenomenal track records.  

>.  Why isn't it happening?

At 03:42 PM 12/22/2002 -0500, Tom Angell wrote:
>On that note,
>
>I've been wondering lately:  why don't DPR org's have huge celebrity
>endorsement?  Think about it: a lot of other non-profits/social change
>organizations have clebrity endorsers that bring them LOTS of exposure and
>monetary support.
>
>As an example, medical marijuana org's should have all the celebrities at
>http://www.ahemp.org/WHO.html appear in public service announcements, which
>could be encoded into mp3, e-mailed en masse, burned onto CDs, and
>distributed to local and college radio stations by activists.  So easy.  Why
>isn't it happening?
>
>Who should be writing to these celebrities?  The Executive Directors of
>marijuana reform org's, I guess.  Kampia?  Stroup? people from ASA? Shawn
>from SSDP?  Should I work on writing a grant request to MPP?
>
>Thoughts????
>
>Peace,
>
>Tom
>SSDP Board
>URI SSDP
>http://members.cox.net/urissdp
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Herb" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 11:23 AM
>Subject: MAP: "so you say you want a big donation"
>
>> MAPstars,
>>
>> I was looking at the Help DrugSense thermometre at
>> http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/
>>
>> Wild and Crazy idea #1
>>
>> According to an article "Rock and roll knows no age" in the Vancouver Sun,
>> December 21, 2002:
>>
>> "Sir Paul McCartney was the top touring artist in the world for 2002,
>> raking in $126.1 million, according to Billboard Boxscores.  All figures
>> were calculated in US dollars."
>>
>> Surely, Paul would donate to a worthy cause like DrugSense.
>>
>> Herb
>>
>>

Mark Greer
Executive Director
DrugSense


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in matters involving the failed, expensive, and destructive "War on Drugs."

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Subj: 002 Re: MAP: Re: 'so you say you want a big donation'
From: "Tom Angell" <>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 12:47:35 -0500

How much money does it take for Kampia or Stroup, et al to write a letter to
celebrities outlining the ugent need for their support and telling them what
they can do?

Not a lot, I'd imagine.

- --Tom

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Greer" <>
To: "Tom Angell" <>; <>
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: MAP: Re: "so you say you want a big donation"

> One word. Money!

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Subj: 003 Latin American Anti-Prohibition Conference, Feb. 12-15, Mérida =?iso-8859-1?Q?, Yucatán, Mexico?
From: David Borden <>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 14:00:38 -0500

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Subj: 004 College Newspapers in the USA
From: Herb <>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:40:37 -0800

Richard & Matt & MAPstars,

I was wondering if there is a way that the Source Directory can list Edu 
newspapers together at the Source Directory:

http://www.mapinc.org/media.htm

I was looking at College Newspapers in the USA:

http://www.newspapers.com/College.htm

There are many US College newspapers not listed at the Source Directory.

I was thinking there must be a college kid out there somewhere who would 
enjoy newshawking the US college/university newspapers.

It would be easier to newshawk College Newspapers in the USA if all of the 
newspapers were listed on a one page list.

Herb

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Subj: 005 Paul McCartney
From: Herb <>
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 21:55:46 -0800

MAPstars,

"so you say you want a big donation" continued...

Re: Paul McCartney

Yes, John was the "political" Beatle, but...

see ExBeatle McCartney says legalize cannabis

URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v97/n432/a04.html?1773

I did a quick search and came across these sites:

His charitable concerns:

http://www.mplcommunications.com/mccartney/charity.htm

His personal website:

http://www.paulmccartney.com/

has a Message board.

I assume they are legit.?

It wouldn't be easy to contact Sir Paul McCartney but if there's a will 
there might be a way.

Why not?

Herb

p.s.  According to an article "Rock and roll knows no age" in the Vancouver 
Sun, December 21, 2002:

"Sir Paul McCartney was the top touring artist in the world for 2002, 
raking in $126.1 million, according to Billboard Boxscores.  All figures 
were calculated in US dollars."

Surely, Paul would consider donating to a worthy cause like DrugSense.

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Attachment: http://www.mapinc.org/temp/part562.html

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Subj: 006 Re: Paul McCartney
From: "Tom Angell" <>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 00:57:36 -0500

We just need "names" (i.e. Executive Directors of reform org.'s) to take the
time to find contact info and write letters outlining the need for support,
cite past charitable work of the celebrity, and then ask!

They probably won't give if we don't ask.  So... why aren't we asking?  Or
are we?

Peace,
Tom
URI SSDP

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Herb" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 12:55 AM
Subject: MAP: Paul McCartney

> MAPstars,
>
> "so you say you want a big donation" continued...
>
> Re: Paul McCartney
>
> Yes, John was the "political" Beatle, but...
>
> see ExBeatle McCartney says legalize cannabis
>
> URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v97/n432/a04.html?1773
>
> I did a quick search and came across these sites:
>
> His charitable concerns:
>
> http://www.mplcommunications.com/mccartney/charity.htm
>
> His personal website:
>
> http://www.paulmccartney.com/
>
> has a Message board.
>
> I assume they are legit.?
>
> It wouldn't be easy to contact Sir Paul McCartney but if there's a will
> there might be a way.
>
> Why not?
>
> Herb
>
> p.s.  According to an article "Rock and roll knows no age" in the
Vancouver
> Sun, December 21, 2002:
>
> "Sir Paul McCartney was the top touring artist in the world for 2002,
> raking in $126.1 million, according to Billboard Boxscores.  All figures
> were calculated in US dollars."
>
> Surely, Paul would consider donating to a worthy cause like DrugSense.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
- -
> Attachment: http://www.mapinc.org/temp/part562.html

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Subj: 007 Re: MAP: Paul McCartney
From: "kim hanna" <>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 06:40:24 -0500

Herb it sure is worth a try. I gave it a go once but
try, try again, as they say.

I heard that he wants his own coat of arms on the news.

Kim

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Subj: 008 Re: MAP: Re: Paul McCartney
From: Mark Greer <>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 07:31:03 -0800

I don't want to discourage this sort of activity in any way but there has been more thna one individual that has tried to raise funds on behalf of MAP by approaching wealthy people and/or large philanthropic corporations independently so far with no results. In most McCartney and other wealthy people have foundations and rather complex procedures for requesting grants. 

By all means go for it if you have the time and resources. No one would be more pleased than I if lightening strikes.  I don't even know how one would go about trying to contact these people. 

Believe me when I tell you that ED's of most reform orgs are up to their eyeballs in various methods of trying to raise funds. Same old same old. Too much to do to little time to do it. 

At 12:57 AM 12/24/2002 -0500, Tom Angell wrote:
>We just need "names" (i.e. Executive Directors of reform org.'s) to take the
>time to find contact info and write letters outlining the need for support,
>cite past charitable work of the celebrity, and then ask!
>
>They probably won't give if we don't ask.  So... why aren't we asking?  Or
>are we?
>
>Peace,
>Tom
>URI SSDP
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Herb" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 12:55 AM
>Subject: MAP: Paul McCartney
>
>> MAPstars,
>>
>> "so you say you want a big donation" continued...
>>
>> Re: Paul McCartney
>>
>> Yes, John was the "political" Beatle, but...
>>
>> see ExBeatle McCartney says legalize cannabis
>>
>> URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v97/n432/a04.html?1773
>>
>> I did a quick search and came across these sites:
>>
>> His charitable concerns:
>>
>> http://www.mplcommunications.com/mccartney/charity.htm
>>
>> His personal website:
>>
>> http://www.paulmccartney.com/
>>
>> has a Message board.
>>
>> I assume they are legit.?
>>
>> It wouldn't be easy to contact Sir Paul McCartney but if there's a will
>> there might be a way.
>>
>> Why not?
>>
>> Herb
>>
>> p.s.  According to an article "Rock and roll knows no age" in the
>Vancouver
>> Sun, December 21, 2002:
>>
>> "Sir Paul McCartney was the top touring artist in the world for 2002,
>> raking in $126.1 million, according to Billboard Boxscores.  All figures
>> were calculated in US dollars."
>>
>> Surely, Paul would consider donating to a worthy cause like DrugSense.
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-
>> Attachment: http://www.mapinc.org/temp/part562.html

Mark Greer
Executive Director
DrugSense


DrugSense is working to encourage accuracy, honesty, and common sense 
in matters involving the failed, expensive, and destructive "War on Drugs."

Get Involved - Learn about the Issues
http://www.drugsense.org

Contribute - Help us Help Reform
http://www.drugsense.org/donate.htm

Find Information - Learn how to Make a Difference
http://www.mapinc.org

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Subj: 009 Re: MAP: Re: 'so you say you want a big donation'
From: Mark Greer <>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:04:46 -0800

While I appreciate the enthusiasm and ideas the very last thing most reform leaders need are ideas of how they should spend their time. Most are utterly overwhelmed. I have been for more than 7 years. It's a constant struggle and balancing act to decide whether to engage in fundraising activity or in efforts to promote reform ideals or pay the bills and do the bookkeeping or....you get the picture. 

I hear a few good ideas a week. I rarely hear ideas on where/how to get the manpower/money to implement new ideas.  To busy to raise money to hire help to get more done. Kind of a Catch-22 eh? Welcome to the reform movement.

At 12:47 PM 12/23/2002 -0500, Tom Angell wrote:
>How much money does it take for Kampia or Stroup, et al to write a letter to
>celebrities outlining the ugent need for their support and telling them what
>they can do?
>
>Not a lot, I'd imagine.
>
>--Tom
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mark Greer" <>
>To: "Tom Angell" <>; <>
>Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 12:42 PM
>Subject: Re: MAP: Re: "so you say you want a big donation"
>
>> One word. Money!

Mark Greer
Executive Director
DrugSense


DrugSense is working to encourage accuracy, honesty, and common sense 
in matters involving the failed, expensive, and destructive "War on Drugs."

Get Involved - Learn about the Issues
http://www.drugsense.org

Contribute - Help us Help Reform
http://www.drugsense.org/donate.htm

Find Information - Learn how to Make a Difference
http://www.mapinc.org

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Subj: 010 Re: MAP: Re: 'so you say you want a big donation'
From: "Tom Angell" <>
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:54:42 -0500

What if I or someone like myself spends the time writing the letter and
finding out the contact info.  Do you think the ED's would at least take a
few seconds to read it over, put their signature on the bottom of it, and
maybe pay 30 something cents for postage?  Maybe following it up with a
phone call would be good too.

- --Tom

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Greer" <>
To: "Tom Angell" <>; <>
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: MAP: Re: "so you say you want a big donation"

> While I appreciate the enthusiasm and ideas the very last thing most
reform leaders need are ideas of how they should spend their time. Most are
utterly overwhelmed. I have been for more than 7 years. It's a constant
struggle and balancing act to decide whether to engage in fundraising
activity or in efforts to promote reform ideals or pay the bills and do the
bookkeeping or....you get the picture.
>

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