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MAPTalk-Digest Sunday, December 7 2008 Volume 08 : Number 085

001 [FWD for interested folks, off topic] Obama Victory Stickers
    From: Richard Lake <>
002 A Plan For Ending Drug Prohibition
    From: R Givens <>
003 A Plan For Ending Drug Prohibition Step II
    From: R Givens <>
004 TX Cops Get Busted
    From: "Herb" <>


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Subj: 001 [FWD for interested folks, off topic] Obama Victory Stickers
From: Richard Lake <>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 08:41:08 -0800

If you hate Obama and don't want the sticker please just delete this message.

If not, a nice free sticker is available at the link below. I have 
five on the way to me.

The message below indicates that these folks will send a free sticker 
to others not on their mailing list just by filling out the data for 
it at the link below.

This is a personal message and does not represent anything about any 
organization I am proud to be affiliated with.

Richard

******

Dear MoveOn member,

Thanks for ordering a pack of "Victory" stickers. The response to 
these stickers has been unlike anything we've seen before­more than 3 
million stickers ordered!

More than 1 million stickers have already shipped, and lots of folks 
have already received theirs. We expect the rest to ship soon, and 
all of the stickers should arrive by the time the holidays roll around.

In the meantime, if you have friends or family who would like a free 
sticker, we'll be offering them for only a few more days, so please 
tell everyone to order now at 
<http://pol.moveon.org/shepstickers/?id=15204-3068526-DR0jbox&t=1>http:

Thanks for all you do.

–Nita, Michael, Laura, Daniel and the rest of the team

Want to support our work? We're entirely funded by our 4.2 million 
members­no corporate contributions, no big checks from CEOs. And our 
tiny staff ensures that small contributions go a long way. 
<http://political.moveon.org/donate/email.html?id=15204-3068526-DR0jbox 
in here.

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PAID FOR BYMOVEON.ORG POLITICAL ACTION, http://pol.moveon.org/. Not 
authorized by any candidate or candidate's committee. This email was 
sent to Richard Lake on December 3, 2008.  

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Subj: 002 A Plan For Ending Drug Prohibition
From: R Givens <>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 03:13:00 -0800

1. Cut Off The Propaganda

2. NEVER EXPECT ANYONE TO GIVE UP A LONG HELD BELIEF UNTIL YOU OFFER 
THEM SOMETHING BETTER.

Here's the a good rule for changing minds strongly convinced of 
traditional beliefs. Never expect anyone to give up a long held 
belief until you offer them something better. Persuasive arguments 
are good but offering a personal benefit can cause an instant change 
of position.

Craft your message according to the audience. What changes an 
ordinary citizen's opinion about drug prohibition is somewhat 
different than what it takes to convince a self-interested politician.

Since we are thinking in terms of how to persuade Obama's 
administration and enough Republicans to end the drug war, we must 
shape our message for that audience.

Politicians are the most cowardly of people. Most will not take a 
step unless they figure to benefit in some way, preferably a large 
reelection majority. They are also interested in achieving certain 
policies unrelated to the drug crusade.

There are many benefits of ending drug prohibition.  One that 
politicians should love is a genuine publicly noticeable reduction in 
crime. The pols love to talk about "getting tough on crime," but with 
more people going to prison every year they cannot point to any 
positive results in crime reduction.

Ending the drug crusade will lower the overall crime rate by 30% and 
probably much more. For argumentation let's say 30% even though the 
drop in "drug crimes" is certain to be much higher.

A 30% crime reduction will be visible to every citizen and the 
politicians who caused it will become  national heroes.

Lowering crime is a positive thing for any elected official and once 
they are convinced that repealing the drug laws will do this their 
resistance to change will drop considerably.

Here is a related debating point for legislators that knocks down 
more political objections.

ENDING THE DRUG WAR WILL FREE UP OVER $100 BILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR.

Obama has some mighty social programs in mind and ending drug 
prohibition is a way of funding them. Picking up an easy $100 BILLION 
is going to be a very tempting proposition that can speed Obama's 
moves against drug prohibition.

Stopping the drug crusade will provide big bucks for more worthwhile purposes.

Defunding the Drug warriors should begin as soon as possible. Make it 
impossible for them to do more than a fraction of the damage they 
currently do until the laws can be changed. As they become weaker 
take everything away.

Set up legal requirements that drug agencies must be evaluated for 
performance by  independent peer reviewed science and require result 
based funding. No progress, no money.

Incidentally, do not talk about eliminating the drug money from the 
budget. That will never happen. Instead stir up cash starved 
bureaucracies to lay claim to the drug warriors billions. Tell 
politicians to divert the money into nondestructive projects THEY 
think worthwhile. Giving them the money gets them on our side.

The main thing is to offer politicians something that benefits them 
more than running a failed drug war.
R Givens
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Attachment: http://mapinc.org/temp/15PgaJP8rjsHw.html

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Subj: 003 A Plan For Ending Drug Prohibition Step II
From: R Givens <>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:22:08 -0800

1. Cut Off The Propaganda

2. NEVER EXPECT ANYONE TO GIVE UP A LONG HELD BELIEF UNTIL YOU OFFER 
THEM SOMETHING BETTER.

Here's the a good rule for changing minds strongly convinced of 
traditional beliefs. Never expect anyone to give up a long held 
belief until you offer them something better. Persuasive arguments 
are good but offering a personal benefit can cause an instant change 
of position.

Craft your message according to the audience. What changes an 
ordinary citizen's opinion about drug prohibition is somewhat 
different than what it takes to convince a self-interested politician.

Since we are thinking in terms of how to persuade Obama's 
administration and enough Republicans to end the drug war, we must 
shape our message for that audience.

Politicians are the most cowardly of people. Most will not take a 
step unless they figure to benefit in some way, preferably a large 
reelection majority. They are also interested in achieving certain 
policies unrelated to the drug crusade.

There are many benefits of ending drug prohibition.  One that 
politicians should love is a genuine publicly noticeable reduction in 
crime. The pols love to talk about "getting tough on crime," but with 
more people going to prison every year they cannot point to any 
positive results in crime reduction.

Ending the drug crusade will lower the overall crime rate by 30% and 
probably much more. For argumentation let's say 30% even though the 
drop in "drug crimes" is certain to be much higher.

A 30% crime reduction will be visible to every citizen and the 
politicians who caused it will become  national heroes.

Lowering crime is a positive thing for any elected official and once 
they are convinced that repealing the drug laws will do this their 
resistance to change will drop considerably.

Here is a related debating point for legislators that knocks down 
more political objections.

ENDING THE DRUG WAR WILL FREE UP OVER $100 BILLION DOLLARS EVERY YEAR.

Obama has some mighty social programs in mind and ending drug 
prohibition is a way of funding them. Picking up an easy $100 BILLION 
is going to be a very tempting proposition that can speed Obama's 
moves against drug prohibition.

Stopping the drug crusade will provide big bucks for more worthwhile purposes.

Defunding the Drug warriors should begin as soon as possible. Make it 
impossible for them to do more than a fraction of the damage they 
currently do until the laws can be changed. As they become weaker 
take everything away.

Set up legal requirements that drug agencies must be evaluated for 
performance by  independent peer reviewed science and require result 
based funding. No progress, no money.

Incidentally, do not talk about eliminating the drug money from the 
budget. That will never happen. Instead stir up cash starved 
bureaucracies to lay claim to the drug warriors billions. Tell 
politicians to divert the money into nondestructive projects THEY 
think worthwhile. Giving them the money gets them on our side.

The main thing is to offer politicians something that benefits them 
more than running a failed drug war.
R Givens
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Attachment: http://mapinc.org/temp/72fmwqyzliDVE.html

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Subj: 004 TX Cops Get Busted
From: "Herb" <>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 06:14:12 -0800

TX Cops Get Busted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3Fu4YVH8nA

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