Pubdate: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 Source: Kansas City Star (MO) Copyright: 2000 The Kansas City Star Contact: 1729 Grand Blvd., Kansas City, Mo. 64108 Feedback: http://www.kansascity.com/Discussion/ Website: http://www.kcstar.com/ Author: Karen Dillon - The Kansas City Star SOUTHERN LAWMAKERS DISCUSS DRUG MONEY FORFEITURE CORAL GABLES, Fla. -- The debate over the way police handle drug money they seize became a major focus of lawmakers from 16 southern states who gathered here this weekend. "This is almost as controversial as the presidential election," said Dana Dembrow, a Maryland lawmaker. Forfeiture was the subject of one of two main sessions at the four-day winter meeting of the Southern Legislative Conference of the Council of State Governments. In addition, several legislators said they plan to pursue reform of forfeiture laws in their states. Dembrow said he would propose that the Southern Legislative Conference ask Congress to help settle the issue. Forfeiture has become an issue nationwide this year. In articles earlier this year, The Kansas City Star found police were evading state laws across the country, including in Missouri, by handing off property and cash they seize in drug cases to a federal agency, such as the Drug Enforcement Administration. The agency keeps a cut, usually 20 percent, and returns the rest to police. Of the 16 states in the Southern Legislative Conference, including Missouri, The Star checked 14 for the series -- all except Mississippi and Virginia. In each of them, the newspaper found either cases in which police handed off seized property to a federal agency or found police who acknowledged they routinely do. Most states have laws that prevent police from unilaterally turning over seized property to a federal agency. In fact, of the 16 southern states, only Mississippi does not have such a law. In a panel discussion that he moderated Saturday, Dembrow, who is chairman of the southern group's Intergovernmental Affairs Committee, asked four panelists whether federal, state and local police were circumventing state forfeiture laws. Sen. Harry Wiggins of Missouri said it was clear that in his state and others, seized money is not being used for purposes that taxpayers expect. Drug money forfeited under Missouri law is supposed to go to public education, said Wiggins, a Kansas City Democrat who has a reform bill pending. He said he was not pointing fingers at law enforcement or trying to accuse anyone of wrongdoing, but that laws need to be followed -- and in Missouri, the law is clear, he said. "The will of the people should be the supreme law," Wiggins said. "I believe the people of Missouri have spoken." Two attorneys from the Justice and Treasury departments said there was no attempt by their agencies to circumvent state forfeiture laws. The appearance was unusual. Justice officials have seldom spoken publicly this year about forfeiture. They said the program that allows police and federal agencies to share forfeited property has been a financial boon for law enforcement. Since its inception in 1986, state and local law enforcement agencies had received more than $2 billion, according to statistics handed out by the attorneys. The 16 southern states alone accounted for more than $1 billion. Steven Schlesinger, trial attorney for the Department of Justice Asset Forfeiture and Money Laundering division, said the money has been spent for investigations, training, uniforms, weapons and cars. "That is money that didn't have to come out of your taxpayers' pockets," Schlesinger said. "States, communities and law enforcement agencies have benefited tremendously from this program." He said that because of the program's benefits it would be shortsighted for states to withdraw from it. Schlesinger said the hand-off of seizures from police to federal agencies was only a small percentage of the $2 billion. However, he acknowledged he could not say exactly how much money that was. Earlier this year the Justice Department gave The Star figures showing federal agencies accepted a total of more than $208 million over a three-year period from local and state police. Schlesinger said the primary goal of the forfeiture program is to punish criminal activity by depriving criminals of the fruits of their crimes and to take away property used to facilitate a crime. Several of the lawmakers in the audience of more than 40 questioned Schlesinger on a variety of issues. For example, Schlesinger said state and local police must follow strict guidelines before a federal agency will accept a seizure. But one legislator said federal agencies appear to be operating much differently. Schlesinger threw some of the responsibility back on the states. Law enforcement agencies in some states are hampered by their own inadequate forfeiture laws, he said. He pointed to Missouri as an example of a state where the law forces police to go to federal agencies with their seizures. "It has a major loophole," he said. Missouri law requires a felony conviction before property can be forfeited, and that becomes a problem for police who find a large amount of cash but can't prove there was a crime, he said. But police can use federal law because it permits a law enforcement agency to declare property forfeited without a conviction. Steven Kessler, a New York criminal defense attorney, disputed that Missouri had a loophole. "What a novel idea," Kessler said. "I advocate that loophole to each and every one of you in this room." Requiring a criminal conviction for a forfeiture is actually a protection for the public, he said. "I must ask you, is it a violation of any law in any state in the country to be carrying cash?" Kessler asked. Kessler, an expert on forfeiture law who has written two treatises on the subject, said reform has begun across the country. Sen. Douglas Henry of Tennessee said he was concerned to learn at the conference that according to his state's and federal forfeiture law property can be taken without a conviction. He said he plans to ask for an immediate examination of his state's law. Sen. Yvonne Miller from Virginia said she was going to send her state's forfeiture statute to a number of outside agencies such as the Legal Defense Fund and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People for examination. "I'm horrified by what I hear," said Miller, who has been in the Virginia Legislature for 16 years. "This is legalized extortion." Sen. Jim Hill from Arkansas said he had asked Kessler to examine his forfeiture law to look for loopholes that could be amended. But Dembrow said he believed only Congress could stop the hand-off between state and local law enforcement. He said he has asked Wiggins to help him formulate a policy statement asking Congress to help determine who should benefit from forfeited drug money and how state and federal forfeitures can be separated. That policy would be voted on next summer at the Southern Legislative Conference annual meeting. Dembrow referred to one of his constituents, a 64-year-old woman who is physically and developmentally disabled and may lose her home. Her children who no longer live there had used drugs. After local police searched her home for drugs several times but found only a small quantity, they reported it to the U.S. attorney because they couldn't charge her with a crime. Maryland law requires a conviction before someone's home can be taken. The federal government initiated forfeiture proceedings against the property, which has been in the woman's family for more than 100 years. "That is a real heartbreak of an example of what is going on here," Dembrow said. He said he will look into the case. Forfeiture has become an issue this year in a number of other states. Just this month, Utah and Oregon voters passed forfeiture initiatives redirecting seized money away from police. A similar initiative failed in Massachusetts. In California, the Legislature passed a forfeiture reform bill in August, but it was vetoed by Gov. Gray Davis. In Kansas and Missouri, reform bills will be considered in the next session. Southern Legislative Conference: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, West Virginia - --- MAP posted-by: Kirk Bauer