Pubdate: Wed, 15 May 2002 Source: Daily Reflector (NC) Copyright: 2002 Daily Reflector Contact: http://www.reflector.com/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/1456 Author: Tracey Stark INMATES TALK ABOUT DRUGS, PRISON More than 80 people gathered on Tuesday at Pitt Community College to hear four inmates from Seymour Johnson Federal Prison Camp talk about their involvement in drugs. Four prisoners of the minimum-security prison facility in Goldsboro shared their experiences with members of the community, including probationers, juvenile probation participants and adult GED students. It was the second time the program has been presented at PCC, coordinated by Pitt County's Criminal Offender Reparation Program (C.O.R.P). "If we get through to one person in the audience, it's been worth coming today. If we get through to all of you, then it's a blessing from God," said Dwayne Perry, 29, who is serving 10 years and one month for distribution of crack cocaine. Although they described what they went through and how bad it was, the inmates insisted this was not like the scared straight-style program. "With scared straight, you can eventually overcome your fear with someone else helping you. But if we educate you, nobody can take that away from you," said Les Mooring, a 47-year-old serving 10 years for the cultivation of 257 marijuana plants. In their prison-gray uniforms, the men were differentiated only by their choice of shoes and whether they wore a watch. One man had dreadlocks under a colorful Rastafarian knit hat. For effect, he took off his hat, exposing hair well past his shoulders and announced that when he went to prison, he was bald. The audience seemed captivated by the straightforward presentation. Mooring described his and another inmate's style as "the preacher and the toastmaster." Barry Washington was the preacher. Washington, 37 - known as "Beware" when he was a cocaine dealer in Raleigh and Winston-Salem in the '90s - told of his drug involvement beginning in the eighth grade. Washington said he and a friend were almost caught by the principal smoking a joint. She smelled the smoke and knew what they were doing, but he said he swallowed the drugs and got away with it - that time. "In the real world, they don't need any evidence that you deal drugs," Washington said. "They only have to prove that you associate with drug dealers." He was arrested for conspiracy to traffic five kilos of cocaine and was sentenced to 15 years in prison. Washington was a self-described kingpin. "I had Raleigh and Winston-Salem on lock-down," he said, meaning he was the main supplier for both cities. He said he was seduced by the lifestyle and was making $30,000 a week. In the end, it was the money and power that brought him down. When the police knocked on Washington's door, he said he was watching the television show "Cops." The police searched his house and only found a small amount of marijuana - a misdemeanor. But they also found documents for property with the names of family and friends. To avoid involving them, Washington said he took the charges. He's been in prison for nine years. Scott Lukse, 26, said, "I thought I was doing drugs, but the drugs were doing me." He said that in high school, he was on the national honor society, the Key Club, played sports and got straight As. He was raised in an upper-middle class family in Charlotte and got into drugs as a way to try to fit in. When he went to college, he used cocaine and ecstacy and continued to make the dean's list. Then he discovered heroin. "It's all about choices," Lukse said. One night while using heroin, he said he woke up soaking wet and sore in a bathtub. He asked his friends what happened, and they told him that he had died, and they had to revive him by beating on his chest and putting him in a tub with ice to bring his body temperature down. That should have taught him, he said, but he got high the next day. Lukse said he got his start selling marijuana as a way to get himself free drugs. He would buy an ounce and sell three-fourths of it - the rest would be for him. Soon, he had friends who wanted to do the same thing, so he was buying it by the pound. He began dealing marijuana in larger and larger amounts, eventually in the hundreds of pounds. "Every weekend, my mother comes to visit me," he said. "And every weekend, I get to see what I did to her." Mooring was growing marijuana in his home in Arkansas. He said he had a background in horticulture and a love for smoking pot. "I wanted to grow the greatest marijuana in the world, which I did." After his arrest, he and his wife fled the country and eventually were incarcerated in Holland and extradited back to the states. Now divorced, he said his wife didn't smoke marijuana or have anything to do with his business but served 15 months in prison and had everything she owned taken from her. The reality, according to Mooring, was that the United States has only 6 percent of the world's population, but 25 percent of the world's prison inmates and 75 percent of the world's lawyers. "So don't think any lawyer is going to help you," he added. Black men, said Mooring, who is white, are seven times as likely to end up in jail. "It's not fair, and it's not right, but I'm not here to talk about what's fair or right. It's just the way it is." Perry said he was out of the drug-dealing business for five years when he was arrested in Charlotte. With a degree in communications, Perry said he was working for himself cutting hair and promoting music events when his brother cut a deal with prosecutors and gave them his name. Perry said he has been transferred to several prisons. He described one in Oklahoma City as "so big the plane pulled right up to the doors of it." He said a prison in Atlanta was nicknamed "Castle Greyskull" because of the smell of death it had. "On the plane with me was a grandmother, mother and daughter. They don't care. Anyone can end up in prison," he said. The audience laughed at some of the stories and nodded in agreement with the inmates' opinions of the justice system. During a question-and-answer session, people asked for advice about what to do with their troubled teen-agers. They asked about life behind bars. The answers were delivered with no editing for the faint of heart. Washington said the inmates' presentation was about "three C's": choice, change and commitment. "If you start making changes in your life and commit to these changes, you'll be surprised where you can be tomorrow," he said. When the presentation ended, many audience members came forward to thank the group. Hugs were given and prayers were offered. The inmates smiled and thanked everyone for coming. In the end, it would be another day in prison for the four as Reginald Baker, counselor at the prison, herded them out the door. "If we hurry," he said, "we can get back in time for lunch." - --- MAP posted-by: Larry Stevens