Pubdate: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 Source: Ottawa Citizen (CN ON) Copyright: 2006 The Ottawa Citizen Contact: http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawacitizen/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/326 Author: Janice Tibbetts PROVINCES WANT HELP TO FINANCE TORY CRIME PLAN Tougher Approach Will Strain System; Ministers To Make Pitch For Assistance Several provincial justice ministers want the federal government to help them pay for the Conservative government's get-tough crime agenda, which they said will cost the provinces more money by putting extra strain on their prison and court systems. The pitch will be made to federal Justice Minister Vic Toews and Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day when they fly into western Newfoundland tomorrow for a meeting with their provincial counterparts. "Obviously, all ministers are going to be interested in the impacts of the federal criminal justice reforms and how that will affect the provincial justice systems," said Newfoundland's Conservative justice minister, Tom Marshall, who will chair the meeting. "It's going to have a major effect on our system. We will need more room in our prisons, we will need more prosecutors and we will need more legal-aid lawyers, so it's going to have a financial effect." Tougher law-and-order measures are a central element of the Harper government's agenda. Last spring, Mr. Toews and Mr. Day introduced legislation that, if passed, will put more people in jail and keep them there longer. One proposal is to impose minimum mandatory jail terms for a variety of gun-related crimes. Another proposal calls for severely restricting conditional sentences such as house arrest. Mr. Day has acknowledged the measures could cost the system more money and he said the federal government has set aside as much as $245 million over five years to pay for additional prison cells. But the provinces -- which are partners in justice and run provincial jails where people serve sentences of under two years -- question how they are going to pay on their end. "The costs will be borne almost entirely by the provinces, and not just on the capital side, building new correctional facilities, but with legal-aid and Crown prosecutors," said Saskatchewan Justice Minister Frank Quennell. Through spokesman Mike Storeshaw, Mr. Toews declined an interview in advance of the meeting. However, Mr. Toews hinted last spring there would be no additional money for provinces to carry out the justice changes. He said at the time that the provinces largely supported the measures, so they should share in the costs. The two-day gathering is Mr. Toews's and Mr. Day's first with their provincial counterparts. A top item is prospective changes to laws governing dangerous offenders. The Conservatives are expected to table a bill this fall that will make it easier for prosecutors to seek dangerous-offender status, a designation that jails an offender indefinitely. The government's plan would make it a presumption that certain sex offenders and violent offenders would be declared dangerous offenders after committing three serious crimes, unless they can present a compelling case to the contrary. - --- MAP posted-by: Beth Wehrman