Pubdate: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 Source: Dunn County News, The (WI) Copyright: 2007, Chippewa Valley Newspapers; a division of Lee Enterprises. Contact: http://www.dunnconnect.com/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/3688 Author: LeAnn R. Ralph, Reporter Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/meth.htm (Methamphetamine) Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/youth.htm (Youth) SMALL CROWD, MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT METH A small crowd asked some big questions at the follow-up community forum on methamphetamine at Colfax High School Tuesday evening. About 20 people attended an event that was the first of four companion sessions to the Dunn County Community Forum on methamphetamine held at Menomonie Middle School in November. The second follow-up session is scheduled for Tuesday at Boyceville High School from 6 to 8 p.m. The Colfax forum featured the Dunn With Meth video, followed by a panel discussion. The panel was composed of Roxie Close of the Colfax School District, Russ Cragin from the Dunn County Sheriff's Department, Dr. Steven Rosas, a physician at the Red Cedar Medical Center who also is the staff physician for Arbor Place, Jennifer Coyne of Arbor Place, and Christine Murphy from Dunn County Health and Human Services. Are teenagers operating methamphetamine labs? The Dunn County Sheriff's Department has not found any meth labs operated by teenagers in Dunn County, but teenagers have been discovered operating meth labs in St. Croix County. "What's most disturbing is we are seeing (meth use) in high school, middle school and grade school age children," Cragin said. The manufacture and use of methamphetamine often is generational and runs in families, Coyne noted. The anhydrous ammonia used on farm fields is one of the ingredients of meth. Has it been banned? Anhydrous ammonia must be transported in containers approved by the federal Food and Drug Administration, Cragin said. People operating meth labs will sometimes put anhydrous ammonia in thermos bottles or in the small liquid propane tanks used for a gas grill or a camper, he said. "It's a bomb waiting to happen... the burns we see are incredible," Cragin said. How are we addressing this as a school district? The Colfax School District has not had to address methamphetamine use until only the last year or two, Close said. "Kids sometimes need something really graphic to make an impression on them," Close said, referring to the presentation made by meth expert Tim Schultz at Menomonie Middle School last fall. Included in Schultz's presentation are graphic pictures of meth users: rapid aging, rotten teeth and eroded gums, and burns suffered when meth labs have exploded. The pictures elicited audible gasps from the audience at Menomonie Middle School, many of whom were middle and high school students. "We have (Schultz) as a resource. I would like to have him come to Colfax as a speaker," Close said. Close also noted that she addresses methamphetamine in her classes at the middle school and that the subject is covered in health classes at the high school. "The scary thing about meth is the whole idea of not even once. You can use it once and become addicted. That scares me as a parent and as an educator," she said. A girl at Chi-Hi in Chippewa Falls became addicted to meth but said she did not know it was meth when she started using it. How often is it sold as something else? Methamphetamine typically is not sold as something else, Cragin said. Cocaine is similar to methamphetamine although it is not as addictive, he noted. Restrictions on the sale of pseudoephedrine have largely eliminated meth labs in Dunn County, but "cocaine is making a big comeback," Cragin said. Can meth be mixed with marijuana? Methamphetamine is either injected, ingested or put into glass pipes that are heated with a flame. Marijuana is a dried plant substance that is smoked like tobacco, Cragin said. Meth users inhale the fumes from the glass pipes, but they don't burn it and inhale it directly. Mixing meth and marijuana would not be too likely, Coyne said. On the other hand, meth can be mixed with heroin, Cragin pointed out. "We haven't seen that yet. Heroin comes from the East Coast, but it will be here eventually." What are the costs to the county associated with meth? Costs associated with meth include the cost of jail time, foster care for children and drug treatment, Murphy said. But, she added, treatment for meth use "is not a week or a month. It takes a long time to kick this. It takes a long time where it might be safe to put children back in a home with their parents." In the early days of treating meth addicts, it was believed that only about 6 percent recovered. "We now know that's not true," Coyne said. "There's about a 50 percent recovery, which is the same as other addictions." How long does treatment take? Methamphetamine can remain in the body for up to 120 days. In-patient residential treatment at Arbor Place is usually between two and four months, Coyne said. When meth addicts were first being treated, the normal course of treatment was 30 days. But since meth can stay in the body for up to four months, those initial short treatments accounted for the low success rates, she noted. "Personally, I'd like to see treatment last for two years," Coyne said. Dr. Rosas added, "We see many different people at different stages. Length of treatment also will depend on the stage of the meth user." What should you look for concerning symptoms of meth use? In teenagers, look for changes in friendship groups and dropping grades at school. In general, look for neglect of personal hygiene, explosive behavior, more impulsive behavior, excessive talking, constant movement with the hands and extreme paranoia, Cragin said. "Meth users think everyone is one of three people: a cop, a snitch or a member of the (Mexican) drug cartel. The paranoia is phenomenal," he said. Early meth use could be confused with the normal ups and downs of adolescent behavior -- except that the behavior becomes much more explosive, Coyne said. If my teenager uses meth once and then comes home, what might I see? After a one-time use of meth, the person might be agitated, sweating, be shaky and have tremors. Additional symptoms might include a quiver in the voice, non-reactive pupils, excessive talking, excessive sleep and high blood pressure, Rosas said. If your teenager comes home one day and is suddenly talking excessively to you when he or she generally does not do that, you might want to suspect meth use, Coyne noted. Does meth use cause permanent damage to the body? "Many of the symptoms of meth use are reversible. It is individual. It depends on the person. It is amazing how far back people can come," Rosas said. He noted that the liver is much more forgiving than the brain and that brain damage associated with meth use is generally permanent. How much does meth cost? Cragin selected a plastic bag from a table display of methamphetamine and assorted paraphernalia associated with meth use. Inside the larger plastic bag was a tiny plastic bag about the size of a postage stamp. "This is a gram. It is $200 worth of meth," he reported, explaining that a heavy meth user can spend around $400 a day to support the habit. "The residual crime to support a meth habit is astounding." In addition to noticing physical changes in their children, parents might also notice money or other items missing from around the house. Neighbors might also report items stolen from their homes. Meth users end up stealing and selling a variety of things to support their habit, Cragin said. For example, one meth dealer in the Twin Cities compiled a list of items he was looking for, such as snowmobiles, pickup trucks and four-wheelers. A group of meth users in Dunn County would steal those items and then trade them for methamphetamine. Is there a connection between the use of Ritalin that's been prescribed and meth use? And what happens to someone who is taking prescription Ritalin and then uses meth? "I have seen no connection with kids treated with Ritalin for ADD (attention deficit disorder) and meth use," Rosas said. "If a person is taking a prescription strength dose of Ritalin and combines it with meth, there won't be much of an additional effect." Do people who use meth substitute that for other medications? "Meth users neglect themselves all the way around and stop taking their medication," Rosas replied. And, depending on the medication, many meth users will sell their medicine to get money to buy more meth, Cragin added. Do you see much meth use at the university? University students tend to use marijuana or Ritalin. The sheriff's department has not seen much meth use among university students, Cragin said. "The university students say it is very easy to buy Ritalin. They take it to help them stay up all night so they can study for an exam," he said, observing that methamphetamine often is considered to be a drug used by rural white people. What's the outcome for children who are taken out of meth homes? "It's too early to have enough information," Murphy said, predicting, however, that children who have been taken out of meth homes will probably have similar reactions and problems later in life as children who are taken out of homes for other reasons. "We probably saved their lives when we removed them from a meth house... kids are in extreme danger from the condition of the house," she said. Parents who are high on meth have no recall about what they have done or not done while they were high, and that includes not knowing whether they have fed or taken care of their children, Cragin said. What does meth smell like? Meth smells like extremely strong cat urine. People using meth always carry that smell around with them, Cragin said. Meth has a sickly sweet strong chemical smell when it is smoked, Coyne said. - --- MAP posted-by: Beth Wehrman