Pubdate: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 Source: Globe and Mail (Canada) Copyright: 2007, The Globe and Mail Company Contact: http://www.globeandmail.ca/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/168 Authors: Murray Campbell, and Campbell Clark Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/mjcn.htm (Cannabis - Canada) GUN-CONTROL A TWO-WAY STREET, MCGUINTY SAYS GUELPH, ONT., OTTAWA -- Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty says he wants to work with U.S. states to stem the flow into Canada of smuggled handguns, but he warned that Canadian governments will have to do something in return to deal with U.S. complaints about the southward flow of marijuana. "We need to find a way for provinces and states to come to terms with this," he told reporters in Guelph. A spokesman for the Premier said later that preliminary talks have been held between Ontario officials and their counterparts in Michigan and New York. Mr. McGuinty acknowledged that there is pushback on Canada's responsibility for drug exports. "Their concern, when I talk to my colleagues down there, is, 'Look, you're sending illegal drugs down here. You want to talk to me about guns coming up there, I've got to talk to you about your marijuana and other stuff going down there.' "You know what? They've got a point," he added. "I think we need to be honest about this being a two-way street and we need to find a way to better enforce existing laws." Reacting to continued gun violence in Toronto, in particular the shooting death last weekend of an 11-year-old boy, Mr. McGuinty repeated his call for a complete ban on handgun ownership because, he said, too many lawful weapons are being stolen by criminals. The Premier expressed frustration with Ottawa yesterday, saying it is moving too slowly on measures to deal with gun crime and is weakening existing gun-control laws. Earlier this week, Toronto Mayor David Miller said residents are almost-unanimous in their support for a ban on handguns. "People are as frustrated as I am that these tragedies occur that are preventable," he said. "It is my job to raise the profile of this nationally." Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day said he has expressed concerns to U.S. counterparts about gun smuggling. But he said there is no simple deal that could be reached with the U.S. that would suddenly staunch the flow of guns. "To give the impression that there's one simple thing that can fix the large problem would be misleading our own citizens and it would give the impression that this is anything but a multifaceted approach. We have to be aggressive on a number of levels," he said. "We work aggressively together. It's not a matter of shaking fists at each other." He said the Tories have increased border security, setting money aside for technology and 400 more border guards, and pledging to fund 1,000 more RCMP officers. Justice Minister Rob Nicholson said in an interview yesterday that better laws at home are more important than pressuring the United States. He rejected calls for a full handgun ban, arguing that further controls will only target the wrong people. A handgun ban and the long-gun registry are not the answer to inner-city shootings, he said. "I think it should be very clear with respect to handguns that there already is an effective ban on handguns in this country. I mean, they're tightly controlled. They're only available for employment purposes like police officers, armoured-car guards, legitimate target shooters and approved gun collectors," he said. "It's the same argument with respect to the long-gun registry. Taking guns away from duck hunters, antique collectors and sports shooters, in my opinion, is not the way to solve the urban gun-crime problem." Mr. Nicholson said that the Ontario government should be pointing the finger at federal Liberals in Ottawa, insisting that they have delayed the passage of bills to toughen gun-crime sentences and create a "reverse-onus" for bail for gun crimes. The latter bill, now before the Senate, would direct judges to only release those accused of gun crime if they can show they are not a threat. "It's their federal [Liberal] cousins they should be calling on to pass some of these pieces of legislation," Mr. Nicholson said. "Either [Liberal Leader Stephane] Dion doesn't have control over the Liberal senators, or - and I suspect this - they're not serious about getting tough on crime in the first place." The federal Liberals, however, insist it's the Tories who are to blame for delays in passing the reverse onus bail, holding it back so they can accuse the Liberals of being soft on crime. The parliamentary record shows both parties were responsible for delaying some gun bills. The Liberals and Bloc Quebecois opposed the Tory bill to increase minimum gun-crime sentences, suggesting smaller increases, before the Tories and NDP cut a deal to pass it through the Commons. But on the reverse-onus bail bill, it was the Conservatives who did not start debate in the Commons until Feb. 13. It ended in March. The Liberals then agreed to fast-track the bill through a special committee, and it was passed by the Commons June 5. It therefore moved to the Senate only in the last days of the spring session, behind other justice bills. Mr. McGuinty acknowledged that a ban on Canadian handgun ownership would not completely deal with the situation since many weapons involved in crime are smuggled into this country from the United States. Provincial officials estimate that at least 50 per cent of the handguns used in crime come from south of the border. He said border security is the responsibility of national governments but he hinted that provinces and states could play a role in decreasing the contraband weapons trade. The spokesman for Mr. McGuinty said the Premier has noted the success that sub-national jurisdictions have had in dealing with climate change and is hoping that states and provinces could also work around the unwillingness in Ottawa and Washington to crack down on gun trafficking. - --- MAP posted-by: Jay Bergstrom