Pubdate: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 Source: Houston Chronicle (TX) Copyright: 2010 Houston Chronicle Publishing Company Division, Hearst Newspaper Contact: http://www.chron.com/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/198 Author: James Pinkerton AN ICE VETERAN'S LOOK AT DRUG WAR South Texas native Alonzo R. Pena leaves the deputy director job at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement with a rare perspective. Starting as a highway patrolman along the Texas-Mexico border in 1982, Pena's nearly three decade law enforcement career has included assignments representing the Department of Homeland Security in Mexico City, stopping arms shipments to Iran, dismantling Mexican drug cartel operations and human trafficking rings, and interrupting the illicit trade in endangered birds and animals from Mexico. Below are some excerpts from a recent conversation with Chronicle reporter James Pinkerton. Q. What's going to happen with Mexico's war on the drug cartels? A. We're going to see this continued battle between the forces of the government and the response of the cartels, and there's going to be casualties, and there's going to be violence, and there's going to be some of these things that are hard for us here in the U.S. to see happening so close to our border. But what was the alternative? Was Mexico to continue to allow the growth of these cartels to take place, with the impunity they had? Q. Some say the Mexican cartels have even more impunity now. A. I don't think so. We're finally starting to see some major cartel capos go down. There's still work. This is not something that's going to change in one presidential administration of the Mexican government when you've had it for years and years and years, and (cartels) grew and became so powerful. Q. What grade would you give Mexico's president Felipe Calderon's campaign to confront the cartels? A. He definitely has to get a high, high mark for taking it on, and not backing away from it, and understanding it's what Mexico needs. They definitely need to take these cartels on. Q. Recently leaked cables from the U.S. Embassy in Mexico City quote Mexican officials saying they must win the battle in the remaining 18 months of Calderon's term because the next president may not continue it. A. There's no question these 18 months are very critical. There's a lot that needs to get done, and a lot will be done. But, again, I think Mexican institutions are getting stronger, little by little; the will is there on behalf of many officials within the (Mexican) government and the U.S. I think the partnership with the U.S. has never been greater, and that's a strong, strong signal. Q. Mexico is relying on the military for much of the fight. What does that say about efforts to clean up corruption in the civilian police agencies. A. They're at an early stage of what they are trying to change and build. It would be unjust to say the current federal police has failed this new institution they've been trying to stand up. It's way too early in what they're trying to do in recruiting, training and vetting this new element. If you look at it objectively, they want to change it. But it's like a a huge ship; you can't turn it on a dime, and it's not realistic to think they could. Q. You headed up ICE criminal enforcement in South Texas and Arizona. Are state laws giving local police the power to arrest illegal immigrants a good idea? A. Legally, constitutionally, I don't think that can be done. That authority rests with the federal government, and until there's a change to that, I don't foresee that it's a viable option, that a state can pass or grant immigration authority that's vested with federal government to its local officers. It's a complex authority and a complex issue, and you definitely need to make sure the application is consistent. I don't know how you try to apply this ... one state does it one way, another state does it another way, one city does it another way. The inconsistencies would be a huge, huge problem. You need something that's very uniform. That's why it's at a federal level. Q. Is there a threat of significant spillover of drug-related violence into Texas? A. Those are battles for territory in Mexico between cartels in Mexico. I think we're going to see it continue to take place in Mexico as the government puts pressure on the cartels. There's potential for incidents in the U.S. because the traffic that's moving and the contraband -- whether it be people, whether it be drugs, whether it be guns, whether it be money or pirated intellectual property - there's a connection to the United States. But the violence is taking place in Mexico, and I do not see that we're going to see that level, or those kind of things taking place on the U.S. side. - --- MAP posted-by: Richard Lake