Source: Ottawa Citizen (Canada) Contact: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/ Pubdate: Mon 02 Mar 1998 Section: News A1 / Front Author: Mike Blanchfield PAY LSD VICTIMS: Reform: Law-and-order party calls experiments on inmates `sickening' The federal government should consider compensating female prisoners used in ``sickening'' LSD experiments in the early 1960s, says the Reform Party's justice critic. ``In the Reform party, we're saying (people) have gone too far in terms of rights and privileges and so on. But this is just absolutely unacceptable. I don't thing there's anyone in our caucus or anyone across the country who feels that this is appropriate,'' Reform MP Jack Ramsay said in an interview yesterday. Mr. Ramsay, the opposition's justice critic, was responding to a series of Citizen reports that at least 23 inmates at Kingston's Prison For Women were used as subjects in experiments with the powerful hallucinogenic drug LSD. One of the subjects was a 17-year-old girl being held in solitary confinement. A report by Correctional Services of Canada, obtained by the Citizen, recommends the federal government offer a full apology and a settlement package to the women. The federal government has yet to issue a formal response. A Corrections spokesman has said the report -- which was completed Sept. 30, 1997 -- is currently the subject of ``study.'' Mr. Ramsay said he did not want to put a dollar figure on the suffering caused to ex-inmates. At least two women contacted by the report's researchers said they still suffer from flashbacks and a recognized psychiatric syndrome called Post-Hallucinogen Perceptual Disorder. ``Ask them (the victims) what they went through. Ask them what this did to them. Ask them what they think. It has to come from them,'' Mr. Ramsay said. ``If there are negative consequences I would think they would have a basis to claim damages. There's no question. But this would all have to be established and proven.'' Although Reform is known for its tough law-and-order stance, Mr. Ramsay said criminals forfeit some rights -- but not all -- when they are sent to prison. ``They're there to serve a penalty to the state, to pay whatever price the courts feel they should be paying for whatever they've done against society,'' said Mr. Ramsay. ``It's sickening to me. Professional people should know better. You don't go into a prison and say, `Here I am. I'm making an offer you can't refuse.''' In an academic paper, one of the researchers defended the experiments, saying LSD held promise for treating drug addicts who were a drain on society. Mr. Ramsay said he doesn't buy that justification. He said he believes researchers were simply using a vulnerable population to learn more about the effects of what was then a relatively new drug. The fact that LSD was legal at the time was also no excuse, he said. ``What happens if, today or tomorrow, some whizbang of a doctor sees a new drug and has the same ideas? If we don't learn from history, we're doomed to repeat it.'' Mr. Ramsay said the government should look into whether similar experiments were conducted in other prisons or institutions. ``I think if there's these dark episodes it should be ferreted out so there's no repeat of it,'' he said. ``We Should Know the Truth.''